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Weird problem with DDS Compiler 4!
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04-10-2012 11:47 PM
I am using a DDS compiler core in my Project. When I change the option of Keep Hierachy to "No", my design works properly and I get the right DDS Data.
When I change the option to "Yes" , everything is ok in the design except that I get the wrong DDS datas. but surprisingly the Datas are not wrong inherently, every single data is correct but the order of datas has changed. BTW, in this case I get this warning : DDS_tester_ins/DDS_ins/BU2/U0/I_SinCos.i/i_rtl.i_q
Could it be the problem? I guess in this case the DDS core is not reading the data from right addresses in its LUT!!!!!!
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04-11-2012 06:20 AM
Is this hardware or sim?
You will probably need to post your .xco and synthesis reports. Perhaps your instantiation code as well.
Do you have any chipscope/sim plots showing the behavior that you can share?
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04-11-2012 11:41 PM
Actually it is the hardware. I have simulated my DDS_Tester module ( instantiation module) and it is working properly. I cannot simulate the whole design simultaneously, since there are some PC interfaces in my design that cannot be simulated.
Anyway, after several tests I came to the point that any change in the deign that removes that warning will lead to the right DDS data. for example I changed the latency of the DDS core and it removed the warning ( I reduced the latency and this is quite awkward that reducing the latency has solved the problem!!!)
This problem is quite weird since every single data is correct and they follow a logical order!!!!! for example in some of part of the period if we negate that part, it will make a complete Sine Wave but with some samples lost! . As I said before, I guess the DDS core is not reading data from the correct LUT addresses. I cannot post the xco and chipscope waveforms since the project is secured and I don't have permission to move the data :( .
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04-12-2012 06:09 AM
I would investigate if your design is meeting timing.
What kind of rates are you running at?
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04-12-2012 08:17 AM
The timing constraint is not met since I am working with the clock frequencies 24 and 100 Mhz. but the there's only one register between the clock domains( which is just a flag in order to tell the DDS module to start the process). My DDS module is working at 100 Mhz and there's a USB controller module which works at 24 Mhz.The USB controller has a register control to tell the DDS module to start the process.
But in both cases, ( right and wrong DDS data ) the timing constraint is not met . Could it be the problem? Notice that the only clock crossing area is the start flag register.
Another point : I decided to Use two DDS modules : one for phase generating and one for sine data generating in order to see whether phase data order is correct or not. I once used a chipsope core and the DDS datas were correct!!!!!! ( in this case i didnt get that warning).
when I removed the chipscope core, again I got that warning and the wrong data!!
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05-04-2012 09:33 AM
I am not sure, but can it be the case, that chip socpe registes the data in a correcter/better qay, than you do?
From you description you seem to have a cross domain clocking issue between DDS synthesis and physical observation at USB. (?)
Have you tried to implement an own DDS? Personally I do not use the XI DDS anymore after having compare their output with mine. See the diagram here http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/251921#259300











