- Choose to receive important news and product information
- Gain access to special content
- Personalize your web experience on Xilinx.com

- Xilinx User Community Forums
- Xcell Daily Blog
- General Discussion
- New Users
- General Technical Discussion
- Forum Usage
- Silicon Devices
- Virtex® Family FPGAs
- Spartan® Family FPGAs
- 7 Series FPGAs
- UltraScale Architecture™
- Zynq All Programmable SoC
- Configuration
- CPLDs
- Silicon Devices - Others
- Design Tools
- Vivado TCL Community
- Installation and Licensing
- Design Entry
- HLS
- Simulation and Verification
- Synthesis
- Implementation
- Timing Analysis
- Hierarchical Design
- Design Planning
- Design Tools - Others
- Archived ISE issues
- Embedded Solutions
- Embedded Development Tools
- Embedded Processor System Design
- Embedded Linux
- PicoBlaze
- DSP Solutions
- DSP Tools
- Digital Signal Processing - IP and Algorithms
- Boards and Kits
- Xilinx Boards and Kits
- 3rd Party/Other Boards and Kits
- Intellectual Property
- PCI Express
- Connectivity
- MIG
- System Logic

Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.

Showing results for

- Xilinx User Community Forums
- :
- Xilinx Products
- :
- DSP Solutions
- :
- Digital Signal Processing - IP and Algorithms
- :
- converting floating point values to fixed point

- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Mark Topic as New
- Mark Topic as Read
- Float this Topic to the Top
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Printer Friendly Page

0

- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Highlight
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content

02-09-2012 03:00 PM

hello there,

i am new to XILINX.

I am trying to implement Discrete Wavelete Transform using VHDL with ISE 9.2.

Here i need to use floating point values. i have gone through the link

**http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/5366.htm**

** the artical is **

**Description**

Keywords: CORE Generator, CORE Generator, coef, COE, FIR, PSA, SDA, fixed point, floating point, normalize, filter

When a FIR filter is designed, the coefficient values are typically given in floating-point format. However, the Xilinx Distributed Arithmetic FIR (DA FIR), Multiply Accumulate FIR (MAC FIR) filter cores can accept only fixed-point coefficient values. Floating-point coefficient values must be normalized to fixed-point values before they can be used with Xilinx FIR filter cores. How are these values converted?

NOTE: The FIR Compiler Core can accept Floating-point coefficients, and will perform the following conversion automatically, based on the coefficient bit width.

**Solution**

The conversion process outlined below expects floating-point format coefficient values with a maximum value of less than "1". These are converted to signed integers in "2's" complement format. *For example*:**Coefficients are 0.0174, -0.0123, 0.127, -0.0123, 0.0174**

1. The first step in converting the coefficients is to determine the number of bits needed to represent the coefficients (N). Typically, this is a system-level decision and is a factor of the required Dynamic Range of the filter and the implementation costs associated with the filter. This value provides the maximum and minimum possible values for the coefficients by calculating the following equation:**Maximum value = 2^(N-1)-1****Minimum value = -2^(N-1)**

NOTE: The N-1 is used because the coefficients are "2's" complement.*For example*:**For 10 bits, the maximum value is 511 and the minimum value is -512.**

2. The second step is to normalize the floating-point values such that the maximum possible dynamic range can be achieved from the coefficient values. This is accomplished by determining the maximum absolute value of the coefficients and dividing it into the coefficients, as in the following equation:**(coefficients) / max_of_coefficients ( absolute_value_of_coefficients (coefficients) )***For example*:**Normalized values are 0.1370, -0.0969, 1, -0.0969, and 0.1370.**

This normalizes ALL the coefficients to either 1 or -1, depending upon the coefficients.

3. The final step is to take the normalized values and multiply them by the maximum possible value for the coefficients as calculated in Step 1. The result is then rounded to "quantize" the values to the coefficients.**result = round (normalized_values * 2^(N-1)-1)***For example*:**2's complement fixed-point values are 70, -49, 511, -49, and 70.**

You can combine these steps to form the following MATLAB equation, which converts the values assuming a bit width (N) and a floating-point coefficient array (coef).**result = round (coef/max(abs(coef)) * (2^(10-1)-1))**

Use the new coefficients in your COE file, ensuring that the RADIX declaration in the COE file is consistent with the number base used when you specify the coefficients.

My question is if i use such fixed point values for calculating DWT at the end wil i be able to convert fixed point values to floating point values. if yes how to do it.

Please help me it is urgent.

0

- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Highlight
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content

02-10-2012 08:04 AM

The Answer record you listed is really targeted towards coeffient data, and how to convert your values you might get from a filter design tool, like Matlab, into something that can be used by the FIR Compiler.

The answer record walks you through the conversion from a deimal number to a binary number and also the quatizatoin, to a fixed bit width.

If you simply want to know the decimal value that each binary number reprsents, you would just walk through the answer record in the reverse order. Start with the binay output, and convert it back into the equivalent decimal value.

The case that is being handled here really is showing how you understand the value being represented by a binary number.

Chris

Video Solutions Center: http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/56851.htm

Video Solutions Center: http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/56851.htm