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Visitor sail52
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SP605 Availability

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Hi,
I am designing a controller for a high power RF instrument for the Navy. This is an upgrade of a previous design for the Air Force. In the original design we used the Xilinx SP601 evaluation kit which Xilinx discontinued prior to the end of production. We would like ot use our legacy code and port to the Xilinx SP605 Development kit, knowing that this board will remain available. This project is low rate production that will extend for several years. What is the production schedule for the SP605? Will this be discontinued in the near future?
thanks

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Xilinx Employee
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Registered: ‎06-21-2018

Re: SP605 Availability

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Hi sail,

There are a few Eval Boards with FMC connectors that use newer devices, e.g. KC705 has been a popular board.

As @u4223374 explained, these are Evaluation boards, not Production boards, so it's unlikely that we guarantee long term availability.

However, the devices do have longer lifecycles, but you'd have to design your own board.

Thanks,
Andres

 

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Scholar u4223374
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Re: SP605 Availability

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Probably not a good assumption to make. It's an evaluation kit, after all - intended for people who are looking at using the Spartan 6 in a new design. Can't be many of those left, and once they're gone Xilinx is likely to halt production.

 

You might be better-off transitioning to one of the more "production-ready" Xilinx kits. Examples include the Enclustra MX1/MX2 (XC6SLX45) and the Trenz TE600/TE630 (XC6SLX45 up to XC6SLX150). It would be worth asking these companies if they can guarantee supply; even if they can't, for a low production rate you might want to just buy 100 straight away (under $10K US all-up) to guarantee supply for 5+ years.

Visitor sail52
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Re: SP605 Availability

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We need the FMC connector for our high speed DAC.  Looks like Avnet and DigiKey have this board. But we need the long term support. Can Xilinx provide a direction on this ?

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Xilinx Employee
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Re: SP605 Availability

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Hi sail,

There are a few Eval Boards with FMC connectors that use newer devices, e.g. KC705 has been a popular board.

As @u4223374 explained, these are Evaluation boards, not Production boards, so it's unlikely that we guarantee long term availability.

However, the devices do have longer lifecycles, but you'd have to design your own board.

Thanks,
Andres

 

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Scholar u4223374
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Re: SP605 Availability

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@andresb Do you know if Xilinx has a policy on users cloning obsolete Xilinx boards? Xilinx provides the PCB files for the SP605, so one option (after the SP605 goes obsolete) would be to send those off to any PCB/PCA house and ask them to build a batch of 50 - 100 boards. I can see all sorts of IP issues here, but at the same time it seems likely that Xilinx would be very pleased for people to keep buying Spartan 6 chips to go on their cloned SP605 PCBs.

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Re: SP605 Availability

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Hi sail52,

I asked the Marketing Manager and he said that the board is in Production and that there's no immediate plans to discontinue it.

@u4223374: That's an interesting idea, and I mentioned it internally, though it seems more of an "inventory management" problem.

Designing a new board (maybe "inspired" by Xilinx Evaluation Boards) keeping in mind the lifecycle of core BOM components and providing some flexibility (e.g. multiple configuration memory options) will provide more protection going forward (albeit at a higher cost.)

Thanks,
Andres

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Scholar u4223374
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Thanks @andresb , that makes sense. I can imagine that the primary reason for discontinuing a board like the SP605 might be that the RAM chips (for example; although a common one because they do have a very short lifecycle) became obsolete, which would then make cloning the PCB rather pointless.

 

@sail52 I'm not sure if Xilinx does a "last time buy" arrangement for the development kits (as they do for FPGAs), but that might be worth investigating. With the chips, Xilinx tells you that they're going to be obsolete, then gives you a year to think about what you're going to do, then you have another year to place a last-time-buy order before they'll actually stop selling the chips.

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