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Newbie skytthe
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Registered: ‎09-14-2010

Install ISE on a Mac

Hi

 

Is it possible to install the Xilinx ISE on a Mac? I have not been able to find a version to Mac, so I expect is doesn't exist.

But OSX is also build on UNIX like Linux, so maybe it would be possible to install the Linux-version on a Mac - if how is it done?

 

Hope somebody can help.

 

-Skytthe

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Xilinx Employee
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Registered: ‎08-13-2007

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

OS-X is not supported:

http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/18419.htm (Install - Operating System (OS) Support on Xilinx ISE Design Tools)

 

I would not expect the Linux version to work as-is either.

 

There has been at least one user reporting that it works under WinXP running under a virtual machine:

http://forums.xilinx.com/xlnx/board/message?board.id=EDK&message.id=4895 (Xilinx tools under macbook)

 

bt

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Explorer
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Registered: ‎11-26-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I have ISE 12.2 running very well on a MacMini with a bootcamped Win7. Although I presume that shouldn't come as much of a surprise...;)

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Historian
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Registered: ‎02-25-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

 


@skytthe wrote:

Hi

 

Is it possible to install the Xilinx ISE on a Mac? I have not been able to find a version to Mac, so I expect is doesn't exist.

But OSX is also build on UNIX like Linux, so maybe it would be possible to install the Linux-version on a Mac - if how is it done?

 

Hope somebody can help.

 

-Skytthe


 

There's no reason at all why Xilinx cannot support their tools on OS X.

Having said that (again), you can install the tools in a Windows or Linux virtual machine.

----------------------------Yes, I do this for a living.
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Xilinx Employee
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Registered: ‎01-03-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

> There's no reason at all why Xilinx cannot support their tools on OS X.

 

More accurately, there is no "technical reason" why the software couldn't be ported, but there is no significant market demand to justify the porting and testing costs required to support this additional platform.

 

A quick search implies that there are no  EDA tools from Synopsys, Mentor or Cadence, that have been ported to Mac OS X either.

------Have you tried typing your question into Google? If not you should before posting.
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Visitor w1jp
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Registered: ‎07-01-2011

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I don't necessarily get wrapped up in these OS discussions; however, I wasn't satisfied with your smug answer.

 

Part of the issue here is your choice of technology that increases your cost. Many of your competitors are choosing to build there tools on open platforms (Eclipse, NetBeans, Processing, etc. (IBM, Microchip, Atmel, AVR, Intel, Freescale, etc.)). While that doesn't alleviate the need to test, the costs of testing and support are drastically reduced.

 

I also find it interesting to note that you support Linux; however, the market share of OS X is nearly 35% more than that of Linux (1). I would wager that number being conservative for the engineering community. While I don't want to turn this into a pro-mac thread, I DO want to point out that because Max OS X is based on BSD Unix, I have switched my domain over to Mac as we get greater productivity using the body of simulation and design work out there for UNIX. My company (in the Fortune 20) is not going to make a move to 64-bit windows anytime soon.

 

Another interesting note—the only OS that did not grow in 2010 was Microsoft Windows! (2)

 

My suggestion is that you poll your community rather than make assumptions like this. Also take a closer look at the industry momentum. Eventually even Mentor Graphics will come around to open platforms. If we can make money doing it so can they.

 

$0.02,

Jon

w1jp

Visitor crbowman
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Registered: ‎06-21-2010

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I use OSX and I'd much prefer to see the Xilinx tools run natively on OSX then Windows.  Given that most of the Xilinx tools are simple command line programs and they've already been ported to Linux that should be fairly easy.  That being said, I have a VMWare virtual machine with Fedora 14 and the Xilinx tools installed and it works marvelously for me on my MacBook Pro.  I can even run the USB FPGA programmer.

Teacher rcingham
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Registered: ‎09-09-2010

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I am not, nor ever have been, a Xilinx employee.
I strongly suspect they know what OSs their most important customers want supported. These are the customers who buy many thousands, even millions, of ICs per year. The rest of us will have to make do...

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Newbie jspahn
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Registered: ‎03-08-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

LOL.  I love this answer.  It comes straight from the Microsoft playbook.  Well, I do not know if Xilinx has been paying much attention, but MS is soon to be moving away from the desktop paradigm in order to essentially catch UP with Apple.  If you have not started on a OSX port yet, then you will be behind the curve much faster than you think.  Oh...and using competitors as an example of being behind the times is indicative.  Is Xilinx a leader or a follower?  Hmmmmm........  

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Participant sjg69
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Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I'd love a native OSX port too, and as a cautionary warning, don't use Parallells to install your VM on OSX. I can't program my SP605 board under parallells. I can run everything else I've tried, and I can see the Xilinx USB device, and it is connected to the virtual machine, but I can't connect to the JTAG cable in xmd. I've since read that it works in VMware...

 

Oh yeah ... and now I'm hoping I can move my node-locked license to a different machine !

 

Simon

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Visitor w1jp
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Registered: ‎07-01-2011

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

Ironically, while we slipped off the top twenty IDMs (largely due to the divestiture of consumer electronics) in 2009,  we are the foundry for >5 of the world's top 20. We also did > $2B in OEM semiconductor business (about the same as Xilinx's entire 2011 revenue). While we are not an FPGA IDM (we are processors, asics, etc.), and thus not a competitor, the majority of our tools are Eclipse based. I thus feel in a position to comment/judge here.  As I said earlier, someone in Xilinx will ultimately conclude that their business is making us successful with their products so they sell more and get into new markets, not selling tools to a restricted and shrinking software market. While I whole-heartedly believe in charging for IP, the tools' IDEs have nothing to do with it. It resides in the synthesis etc.  Anyway, Xilinx stop wasting your time on proprietary tool installations and leverage Eclipse, Netbeans, or even Cloud9. Take those investment dollars and make us more productive getting your products to market.  $0.02, Jon These are my personal comments and not necessarily the opinions of my employer. 
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Historian
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Registered: ‎02-25-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac


@w1jp wrote:
, the tools' IDEs have nothing to do with it. It resides in the synthesis etc.  Anyway, Xilinx stop wasting your time on proprietary tool installations and leverage Eclipse, Netbeans, or even Cloud9. 

I don't see how Eclipse could be used for FPGA tools. I don't need an editor, I have emacs. 

 

Really, all we need is a reasonable mechanism to set the various compiler/build options and then using makefiles, the proper command-line tools can be called. And there's no reason why those tools can't be built for any platform.

----------------------------Yes, I do this for a living.
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Historian
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Registered: ‎02-25-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac


@sjg69 wrote:

I'd love a native OSX port too, and as a cautionary warning, don't use Parallells to install your VM on OSX. I can't program my SP605 board under parallells. I can run everything else I've tried, and I can see the Xilinx USB device, and it is connected to the virtual machine, but I can't connect to the JTAG cable in xmd. I've since read that it works in VMware...


Indeed it does work with VMWare Fusion.

----------------------------Yes, I do this for a living.
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Visitor u848237
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Registered: ‎07-19-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

The Retina screens on the latest Macs seem compelling reason enough to support that OS, for something like ISE.

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Newbie bsv109
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Registered: ‎08-06-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

Interesting that no one has mentioned Mathworks and MATLAB / Simulink which fully supports OSX (with a few minor exceptions).  Integration with Sysgen would very nice natively instead of on a VM. 

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Observer patrickyip
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Registered: ‎08-06-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

 i have got a reply on webcase that Mac OS X like Lion is not supported in Xilinx ISE any versions.

Xilinx seems that they dont know that the world is changing. More users are using Mac machines.

Besides, many application notes are still using Win XP. There is still no plan or support on PC driver for Win 7 (for xapp859 and xapp1052).

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Newbie jvk
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Registered: ‎08-21-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

Hey, I was just wondering what I would need to do I wanted System Generator. Would I specifically need to install the windows version of MATLAB/Simulink to be able to use sysgen?

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Visitor koates
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Registered: ‎08-19-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

Just adding another "I use OS X and I Xilinx too"

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 in a Virtual Box (surprised no-one else is using this, it's free), in 10.7.4 Lion, with a ZC702 Board, on a Macbook Pro.

Had no problems with using the Digilent USB JTAG cable, or CP2103 usb/serial adapter within the VM. Note though, the Digilent device doesn't appear until the board is on.

With Virtual Box (probably VMware and Parallels too) automatically 'send' the USB devices to the VM when they appear, useful if you're power cycling a lot, so the JTAG devices doesn't get 'stuck' in the Host OS.

I actually prefer to run in the VM, as I can snapshot the system before doing anything crazy, or when I reach milestones.

Theoretically (haven't tried this) I can also run the same VM whether I'm booted to Window or OS X.

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Newbie bwalker000
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Registered: ‎09-07-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I'm a mac guy and I wish the tools were native. I don't generally mind working in a linux virtualbox guest under my mac os host, however, every time the moon changes phases the **bleep** USB platform ii programmer stops working. The driver disappears, or some change to virtualbox breaks it. That is in my Windows 7 virtual machine as well. That is my pain.

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Explorer
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Registered: ‎05-12-2011

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

It would make my day if only the basic command line tools would run on my Mac.  I'd be glad to get rid of the editors and project managers and use a less complicated and less obfuscated build flow.  The only GUI apps I'd miss would be ISim and the FPGA viewer in PlanAhead, and I'd be willing to deal with those in a VM or even on a separate machine as they don't represent a bulk of where I spend my development time (although the simulator is pretty critical of course).

 

The EDK stuff, I would really love to ditch that whole environment.  I've spent more time trying to finagle the whole SDK BSP/HWPlatform/Drivers & libs than I have actually coding HDL or software.  I can port CodeSourcery to OS X no problem.  Give me the basic proprietary stuff as command line utilities and I'll build my own environment around them and be much more productive.  I applaud the Xilinx decision to not port Xilkernel to the Zynq, and instead assist in making FreeRTOS available.  Xilinx should not be in the OS development business, and even the whole standalone "OS" that's described as "bare metal" is nowhere near bare enough for what I need to do.  I had a heck of a time figuring out how to make all of that assumed "this is how everyone will do it" paradigm get out of my way.  And it's not entirely out of my way, either.  My required BSP consists of "types.h" which is silly but required by SDK.  The only useful part of the whole thing is the ps7_init.xxx stuff, and I would much rather be able to control exactly how that all gets generated instead of just assuming that the myriad of masked writes to addresses is what I need.  It's on my todo list.  I would think it would be to Xilinx' advantage to make just the basic tools available and let people use them as per their requirements instead of trying to create and maintain that whole overly complicated and restrictive integrated development environment and target application libraries and such monster.

 

In summary, add me to the list of folks who would really like Mac support.

 

Cheers,

-Doug

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Historian
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Registered: ‎02-25-2008

Re: Install ISE on a Mac


@dchavir wrote:

It would make my day if only the basic command line tools would run on my Mac. 


And there is absolutely no reason why they can't retarget the tools for OS X, especially when one considers that underneath the hood the tools run in a Cygwin shell.

 

Of course, I'm old enough to remember Xilinx had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support Linux but they were still supporting past-their-sell-by-date OSes like SunOS and HP-UX. 

----------------------------Yes, I do this for a living.
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Re: Install ISE on a Mac

+1 for Xilinx tools on the Mac.

 

I know the arguments against: don't want to support too many OSes, not enough demand, etc.

 

But people said the same thing about supporting Linux when Windows was dominant, and about supporting Windows when DOS was dominant.  A friend of mine was doing embedded system design in the mid-90s.  His tools ran on DOS.

 

As for the argument "but competitor X doesn't support the Mac," let me rephrase it this way:  "here's a potential market that none of our competitors have addressed."

 

W

 

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Participant cesys
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Registered: ‎08-02-2013

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

+1 for ISE on the Mac with OS X. Image how cool development would be with Mac features like timemachine and spotlight.

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Visitor arnoldb
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Registered: ‎08-09-2013

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

+1 for a native port of Vivado and ISE to the Mac OSX platform. (putting my vote out in case this motivates Xilinx decisions)

 

Mac OSX, with Microsoft supporting MS Office (it *is* the industry standard documentation/spreadsheet/mail suite), AND unix cmdln and scripting all native to OSX, this would be the IDEAL platform for FPGA and Embedded development!!  In contrast, because Linux does not run Office designers need two platforms to really function.   Major CAD companies (Autocad, Solidworks) are coming onboard and already have native OSX builds...so momentum is building, and there is hope?

 

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Teacher rcingham
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Registered: ‎09-09-2010

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

How many copies will you buy of 'Vivado for OS X'?

If enough organizations want to buy, it might happen. If it's just individuals wanting WebPack versions, I expect that we will see the sun emulating Betelgeuse first!

Disclaimer: I am not a Xilinx employee.

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"If it don't work in simulation, it won't work on the board."
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Registered: ‎11-07-2013

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

+1 I want OS X version of Xilinx tools,too.

 

I want to use 2013 mac pro(coming in december) for my next project.

 

better computer -> less waiting -> more efficiency

 

bootcamp wouldn't utilize the whole capability.

 

 

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Teacher muzaffer
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Registered: ‎03-31-2012

Re: Install ISE on a Mac

+1000 for OS X version of Vivado.
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Newbie yosoycosa
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Re: Install ISE on a Mac

This tutorial is in Spanish but I hope it can help you http://divisordetension.blogspot.com.es/2013/12/instalar-ise-webpack-en-mac.html

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Scholar dwisehart
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Re: Install ISE on a Mac

I run Vivado on my Mac, but only by running Linux under VMWare. It is a good solution, but it would be better if it ran natively on Mac.
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